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Trade Deadline Thoughts: Robidas, Draft Picks, and Kesler

In the final twenty-four hours before the NHL's trade deadline I want to talk on a couple points based on some of today's news.

Red Wings' general manager Ken Holland has said the team is looking to make a "hockey trade" and that they want a top-four defensemen. "Hockey trade" apparently means that they're not looking for a rental, or that they're not willing to give up big assets for one.

That likely means the price tag for a player like Christian Ehrhoff from Buffalo or Alexander Edler from Vancouver will be too high. Andrew MacDonald was dealt from the Islanders for a fifth rounder this year, a third next year, and a forward prospect. Stephane Robidas was different, however.

Robidas went from Dallas to Anaheim for "just" a fourth round pick. Hardly an exorbitant amount for a right-handed shot on the point and a veteran with a mean streak. The Stars say they're not selling assets off and that Robidas was an exception, so maybe the seemingly-low price was driven by that. Maybe Robidas wanted a deal to Anaheim, for example.

If Detroit could have had him for a fourth-rounder, though, I have a hard time saying I wouldn't make that move. It would be a rental, yes. Robidas is 37, he wouldn't be the long-term acquisition that Holland seems to be looking for. But at that cost, I do the deal. Especially given that the kind of deal Holland says he wants looks less and less likely.

Trading draft picks is a crapshoot, especially a fourth-rounder. No pick is a sure-thing. The fourth round is early enough that you can still find some good talent but late enough that it's not easy to do so. Recently, the Red Wings have used fourth round picks to select Andreas Athanasiou, Teemu Pulkkinen and Gustav Nyquist. I wouldn't trade any of those players for Robidas.

Before that, though, the fourth round brought Mattias Ritola, Evan McGrath, Johan Berggren, and Miroslav Blatak. I'd dump all of them (or equivalent players) for a Robidas rental. It would appear that Holland wasn't willing to take that chance. Or he didn't get the option.


To jump back to Ehrhoff's name for a minute... The word is that Buffalo wants prospects in return for him, not picks. I think that, should the Wings decide to make a move, that favors them. Holland won't want to dump his first-rounder but the Wings have some prospects that could be deemed extraneous. I'm still not sure it'd be worth it but it depends on what Buffalo wants. Trade a defenseman for a defensive prospect or for the best player you can get? I'm not sure I'd move a Pulkkinen but what about Ryan Sproul?

I mean, I'd prefer Ehrhoff for Kyle Quincey, straight up, but we've gotta be a little realistic.


After missing out on (or never being in on, or whatever) Robidas, we've still got reports that the Red Wings are going after Vancouver forward Ryan Kesler. There was a specific Tweet I wanted to reference on that but I lost track of it.

I just can't see how this deal makes sense for Detroit. Vancouver wants a top young center plus prospects and picks. Maybe I'm biased against Kesler, he grew up in Livonia hating the Red Wings and I see that as a character flaw, but I wouldn't deal any of the Wings' young roster players for him. Dump some vets for him, sure. A couple draft picks? Yeah. The Canucks aren't going to do that, though. As I said, we've gotta be a little realistic.

That said, if Holland somehow swings a deal for him, I'll probably be able to justify it to myself somehow. As I said awhile ago, a slightly-dirty player who hates the Red Wings? Fifteen years ago that was Chris Chelios and it worked out okay when he came to Detroit.

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