Misconduct

Placing Blame

I've been having a hard time putting together Game Four thoughts, focusing instead on Game Five. Instead of my own thoughts, I'll go with those of George Malik.

Here's my "bottom line" point: Hasek hasn't been good enough, and it's Osgood's time to start, but hockey is a team game, and if you're going to go blaming Hasek instead of pointing fingers at the 18 skaters in front of him for also not being "good enough," you're letting the rest of the team off the hook for some terrible performances. I'm not diminishing Hasek's disappointing play, but I think it's a short-sighted conclusion for fans to hang #39 by his toenails when his struggles are simply not the "one and only" reason that the Wings lost the last two games.

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We've got a virtual must-win for both teams tonight. Detroit needs the win or they go back home having blown a two-game lead. Nashville needs it or they're a loss from elimination.

There have already been calls for Hasek's head and if he doesn't shine tonight, those will only get louder. I'm trying not to fault him for Game Three.

Posted by YzerFan19 on 4/16/2008 at 11:12 AM

 

I just checked what time it starts. 9pm ET. That's not good. 2AM for me. I will make it to the end. Hopefully.

Anyway, I don't think it's fair to blame Hasek on his own for what happened. Going on the defensive too early is what cost them, like what others have been saying. It's a new game and it's time to move on. But if they blow another two goal lead, I may actually explode.

Posted by Britishwingsfan on 4/16/2008 at 12:10 PM

 

No lineup changes for the Predators, meaning that Legwand stays in. Detroit is swapping out Andreas Lilja and replacing him with Brett Lebda.

http://redwingscorne...ning-skate.html

Posted by YzerFan19 on 4/16/2008 at 1:57 PM

 

Darren Helm will take the pregame skate, ready to go if an unspecified Wing is unable due to injury. Figure it would be Abdelkader if the Wings were looking for grit, so this is probably a skill guy. Samuelsson or Draper.

My Internet's been flaky across the last couple days, but I'll try to be around for this thread throughout the game.

Posted by YzerFan19 on 4/16/2008 at 6:42 PM

 

We've got a virtual must-win for both teams tonight. Detroit needs the win or they go back home having blown a two-game lead. Nashville needs it or they're a loss from elimination.There have already been calls for Hasek's head and if he doesn't shine tonight, those will only get louder. I'm trying not to fault him for Game Three.


And after Hasek's performance in game 3, the pundits are correct in asking for his head. I say the first sign of him being shakey tonight, pull-em. He has to make the stops in play-off hockey. Game 3 was almost inexcusable.Is Lilja out tonight and Lebda in???

Posted by skyguy52 on 4/16/2008 at 8:27 PM

 

Helm is out. Whoever was feeling hurt is good enough to go tonight.

Posted by YzerFan19 on 4/16/2008 at 9:02 PM

 

Playing "Battle of the Heroes" from Revenge of the Sith at the Sommet Center. I'm old-fashioned, but that's the kind of stuff you play in a pregame show, not cheesy nu-metal.

Posted by YzerFan19 on 4/16/2008 at 9:05 PM

 

askdfjal;sdjf;lasj; AHHHHH! I HATEHATEHATE that 'April in the D' commercial. Yeah, it wouldn't be bad except for the fact they play it EVERY TWO MINUTES >:|

They could at least make it more hockey-esque. Stanley in the D? <img src="http://forums.detroithockey.net/public/style_emoticons/default/cursing.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cursing:" border="0" alt="cursing.gif" /> Oh yeah, has a nice ring.

I hope Lebda can do something tonight <img src="http://forums.detroithockey.net/public/style_emoticons/default/cursing.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cursing:" border="0" alt="cursing.gif" /> I am excited. It's eight past nine, and I am anxious for the face-off.

Anyone else think the sign they showed that the kids made for Valtteri looked like a chicken with a hockey stick? XD Hahahaha, it was cute <img src="http://forums.detroithockey.net/public/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.png" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":o" border="0" alt="ohmy.png" />

Posted by Mathieu_Datsyuk132351 on 4/16/2008 at 9:08 PM

 

Zata with a couple good chances early, gotta keep that up.

Posted by YzerFan19 on 4/16/2008 at 9:15 PM

 

Wheres the HD this is blury as hell on my tv. I have to wait for the NY & NJ game to get over then it switches to the wings on versus

Posted by fitch.1918 on 4/16/2008 at 9:17 PM

 

So it's not just my old SD TV.

f*ck, I wish it was blurry enough to not see that.

Posted by YzerFan19 on 4/16/2008 at 9:20 PM

 

i agree

Posted by fitch.1918 on 4/16/2008 at 9:21 PM

 

Mickey: "Back door for Hamhuis. And he was wide open."

If I was Bill, I would make a joke.

Jesus Christ, another?

Posted by YzerFan19 on 4/16/2008 at 9:22 PM

 

wheres osgood

Posted by fitch.1918 on 4/16/2008 at 9:22 PM

 

O dear.

Posted by Britishwingsfan on 4/16/2008 at 9:23 PM

 

Alright, f*ck it. Still early.

The problem with putting Osgood in is that you'll never be able to go back to Hasek for the rest of the playoffs 'cause he's a headcase.

Posted by YzerFan19 on 4/16/2008 at 9:25 PM

 

maybe those weren't haseks fault but these 2 goals in under a minute is killing me

Posted by fitch.1918 on 4/16/2008 at 9:26 PM

 

I think those aren't fans with whistles, that's just what it sounds like when you breathe through that big of a gap in your teeth.

Posted by YzerFan19 on 4/16/2008 at 9:29 PM

 

ok lets get one here. whoever has that damn clapper I'd like to get ahold of it and beat them with it

Posted by fitch.1918 on 4/16/2008 at 9:30 PM

 

Puck bouncing all over the place.

Posted by YzerFan19 on 4/16/2008 at 9:34 PM

 

I blame the Tigers. The Wings don't win when they do.

Mac looks like he wants to break Smithson into tiny pieces.

Posted by YzerFan19 on 4/16/2008 at 9:37 PM

 

at least were not senator fans get the golf clubs out

Posted by fitch.1918 on 4/16/2008 at 9:37 PM

 

Two awful passes by Hartigan and he lost the draw on Nashville's second goal. Why isn't Abdelkader playing?

Posted by YzerFan19 on 4/16/2008 at 9:42 PM

 

horrible tootoo did nothing wrong there?????

Posted by fitch.1918 on 4/16/2008 at 9:42 PM

 

Yeah, Huds. Lets just golf a little floater on net, that'll get by.

Posted by YzerFan19 on 4/16/2008 at 9:47 PM

 

They just don't look up for it. I've seen more intensity at a WI coffee morning.

Posted by Britishwingsfan on 4/16/2008 at 9:53 PM

 

Of course, exactly what the Wings need is more penalties ):

I wish Dr. Fil could get a goal. ): Where's the shooting stars & falling eyelashes when you need them!?!?!?

But then, reconsidering it, I'd wish for them the Stanley captial 'C' Cup. <img src="http://forums.detroithockey.net/public/style_emoticons/default/cursing.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cursing:" border="0" alt="cursing.gif" /> Hahaha, memories.

Someone needs to remake the commercial. It really should be 'Stanley in the D'

Posted by Mathieu_Datsyuk132351 on 4/16/2008 at 9:53 PM

 

I need to be distracted. I'm playing Lego Star Wars over intermission. Someone let me know when the game's back on. This blows.

Posted by YzerFan19 on 4/16/2008 at 9:56 PM

 

If the wings don't pull their socks up and buck up their ideas, this is gonna be a long night.

Posted by Britishwingsfan on 4/16/2008 at 10:08 PM

 

Should someone alert Clark?

x] Hahaha, legos. <img src="http://forums.detroithockey.net/public/style_emoticons/default/cursing.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cursing:" border="0" alt="cursing.gif" /> I love legos. I actually built a major lego city a few weeks ago. XD Hahaha, I was helping my friend's little sister.

Posted by Mathieu_Datsyuk132351 on 4/16/2008 at 10:10 PM

 

No need to alert me, I'm paying attention. Though beating the hell out of stuff with a lightsabre was very thereputic.

Posted by YzerFan19 on 4/16/2008 at 10:15 PM

 

I think those aren't fans with whistles, that's just what it sounds like when you breathe through that big of a gap in your teeth.


Haha. Its not easy going to a hockey game in Tennessee. There are no cars going around an oval.

Posted by skyguy52 on 4/16/2008 at 10:15 PM

 

I'm sure he'll come back.

I had to make do with a box of random lego. I'm still gutted I never got to go to legoland.

Anything's better than talking about the game right now.

Posted by Britishwingsfan on 4/16/2008 at 10:15 PM

 

If the wings don't pull their socks up and buck up their ideas, this is gonna be a long night.


Seems to me like the WINGS aren't working very hard tonight. Its not that Nashville is looking all that great either. Medicocre at best. Strange to say the least, that the WINGS aren't putting a little more energy into this. Not sure what to think at this point. 1st period stats had the Preds ahead in every category, except shots, even face offs and shots on net were very close.

Posted by skyguy52 on 4/16/2008 at 10:19 PM

 

On the motherf*cking board! Grab your sisters and run, we're coming for ya!

Posted by YzerFan19 on 4/16/2008 at 10:21 PM

 

Yes! Dasyuk!

Posted by Britishwingsfan on 4/16/2008 at 10:21 PM

 

YAY! <img src="http://forums.detroithockey.net/public/style_emoticons/default/cursing.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cursing:" border="0" alt="cursing.gif" /> Push your eyelashes back in, thanks to Datsyuk <|3

Hmmm. Noe De Vries scores. Let's hope I spelled that right XD

Posted by Mathieu_Datsyuk132351 on 4/16/2008 at 10:21 PM

 

Nevermind. f*ck it.

Posted by YzerFan19 on 4/16/2008 at 10:21 PM

 

Way to go. <img src="http://forums.detroithockey.net/public/style_emoticons/default/cursing.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cursing:" border="0" alt="cursing.gif" />

Ozzie's in now.

Posted by Britishwingsfan on 4/16/2008 at 10:23 PM

 

Urgh. Could couldn't lift it up there.

Posted by Britishwingsfan on 4/16/2008 at 10:25 PM

 

At times like these, I wonder how different this season would have been, had the Wings kept Mathieu Schneider. I will let you all ponder that for a moment, as I will myself x] I hope the Ducks lose.

Osgood seems steady for now.

Posted by Mathieu_Datsyuk132351 on 4/16/2008 at 10:31 PM

 

They'd goddamned better call Nashville for every push and shove after the whistle after that call on Draper.

Posted by YzerFan19 on 4/16/2008 at 10:33 PM

 

Disciprine, Draper. Discprine! What was the point?

Posted by Britishwingsfan on 4/16/2008 at 10:34 PM

 

They'd goddamned better call Nashville for every push and shove after the whistle after that call on Draper.


Agreed. That was silly. ): I don't even know what to say anymore. This game is getting ridiculous. I wonder if this is what the games the Wings win feel like to their opposing fans?

Posted by Mathieu_Datsyuk132351 on 4/16/2008 at 10:34 PM

 

Okay, I'd assumed he'd done something bad. I'm struggling to pay attention.

Posted by Britishwingsfan on 4/16/2008 at 10:38 PM

 

Why do they do that? I still haven't figured it out, and I haven't enough patience to put up with my dad to ask. =/

Why do they kick people out of the face-offs sometimes? ):

Posted by Mathieu_Datsyuk132351 on 4/16/2008 at 10:41 PM

 

Back to Star Wars...

Posted by YzerFan19 on 4/16/2008 at 10:50 PM

 

Yawn. I'm slowly losing the will to live. I don't see the wings winning this game.

Posted by Britishwingsfan on 4/16/2008 at 10:53 PM

 

Well thank you Groininator, and your inability to stop non traffic slap-shots from the blue line. I wonder if Babcock's man crush on Hasek has finally run its course. Lets all hope so, the man's a joke who can't even hold onto his stick.

Posted by choyer on 4/16/2008 at 10:54 PM

 

Nothing like some camp 80s synth pop to take your mind off things:

Posted by Britishwingsfan on 4/16/2008 at 11:02 PM

 

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